Wednesday, January 7, 2015

Understanding Islam



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FILE- In this April 16, 2009 file photo, the Kuwait city skyline is seen through the haze of a sand storm in Shuwaikh, Kuwait City. Nabil al-Fadhl , a member of Kuwait's parliament says he is facing charges of insulting the nation after saying he supports legalizing the sale of alcohol in the predominantly Muslim country. Al-Fadhl told The Associated Press late Sunday, Jan. 4, 2015 that controversy was sparked after he first proposed repealing a law that bans dancing at public music concerts and festivals. Al-Fadhl said an Islamist lawyer filed charges against him for his remarks, accusing him of insulting the honor of Kuwaiti society. (AP Photo/Gustavo Ferrari, File)
KUWAIT CITY (AP) — A member of Kuwait's parliament says he is facing charges of insulting the nation after saying he supports legalizing the sale of alcohol in the predominantly Muslim country.
Nabil al-Fadhl told The Associated Press late Sunday that controversy was sparked after he first proposed repealing a law that bans dancing at public music concerts and festivals. Kuwaiti law bans people from dancing at concerts, though they are allowed to clap their hands and sway.
After his proposal, al-Fadhl said he was asked in parliament by an Islamist lawmaker if that means he would also support legalizing the sale of alcohol during concerts.
"Why not? Historically, many people in Kuwait drank alcohol on many occasions," he said he replied to the query.
The Kuwait Times later reported that several lawmakers swiftly condemned al-Fadhl "for saying that liquor was part of Kuwait's history and ancestors were tolerant toward allowing its consumption in the past."
Kuwait's first parliament banned the sale of alcohol in 1964. It is a sin in Islam to consume alcohol, though it is sold legally with some restrictions in the Gulf countries of United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman and Bahrain.
One lawmaker, Saud al-Huraiji, was quoted in the Kuwait Times as saying that al-Fadhl had "clearly undermined the image of Kuwaitis and the country's history." Lawmaker Humoud al-Hamdan said "the ancestors of Kuwaitis were well known for their fight against moral corruption, including the use of liquor."
Al-Fadhl said an Islamist lawyer filed charges against him for his remarks, accusing him of insulting the honor of Kuwaiti society.
Fadhl said he was only mentioning "facts about alcohol in Kuwait's history." On the black market, he said, people can buy a bottle of whiskey for 120 dinars ($408).
"It's available in ample amounts, but only affordable to the rich," he told the AP. "A good start would be to allow people to bring in their own alcohol from abroad instead of confiscating it."
Al-Fadhl, who is an independent lawmaker, said that despite his personal views, he is not planning to propose a bill to legalize the sale of alcohol.
  • True 5 hours ago
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    Just say you are sorry works for DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS all of the time. See Biden.
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  • Jeff 1 day ago
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    This is how as backwards these muslims are!! I know it's "cool" for hollywood and young to support them. These people are stone age educated ANTI WOMEN MORONS. It amazes me when you see left women support or join them,
    The best part you know the royal families drink. The 911 as hoes were at a strip bars drinking the night. Who in the hel wants 79 virgins?? Give me couple of good pros any day. But I digress.
    This will never be settled until the crusades occur again.There was a reason it happened once and trust when a nuke goes off in LA or Chicago, Or they just keep shooting up malls. It will occur.
    Let's just do them in and get over it. CAUSE IT WILL COME DOWN TO US OR THEM!!And if your not a Christian, their still chopping your head off!!!
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  • Socialist Republic of California 1 day ago
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    I had a friend who was born in Iran where alcohol was also illegal. He said you really didn't want to go public with it and challenge authorities but Iranians knew how to work the system. One tail I found somewhat innovative, he said he used to drive around with booze in his windshield wiper fluid container under the hood. Then he Jerry-rigged the windshield wiper sprayer to enter the vehicle under the dashboard so he could fill his coffee cup as he drove around.
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  • Steven 19 hours ago
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    But doesn't the Muslim religion advocate peace? So why are they worried about the comments about alcohol when they do nothing about the Muslim's that are advocating death and violence in the name of Allah?
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  • Susan 1 day ago
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    Alcohol has been an important part of everyone's history. Beer and wine were consumed for thousands of years instead of water for one simple reason, it was safer. As a non drinker, I am not bothered by this fact, but then again, my historical reasoning is not blurred by any religion.
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  • Problem? 1 day ago
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    Next ambassador to Kuwait: Kevin Bacon.
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  • brett 1 day ago
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    Ain't religion grand?
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  • Phil D 1 day ago
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    Having lived in Kuwait, the article does not mention that they do have liquor stores there!

    All you need is the secret squirrel handshake to get in!
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  • RA 1 day ago
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    Hey America, remember this country of Kuwait, where you sent your soldiers to die for? Now also remember that in August 2013 your good-for-nothing president wanted to send your soldiers to die in Syria just to take out Assad, who is a secular leader providing freedom to all Syrians, women and men, to wear what they want, go out to bars and nightclubs, drink and party, in addition to many other freedoms people in these backward oil rich Gulf states, like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, could only dream of.

    Yeah, America really likes to "spread freedom and democracy" around the world.
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  • RA 1 day ago
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    I had to live in Kuwait for 6 months for work related matter. It felt like 6 centuries to me, and as a woman, I couldn't wait to get out and return to Syria. Kuwait, like other Arab Gulf countries, has no history and no culture, and their native people are lazy beyond belief. European, American and Asian workers built their countries, so once their oil dries up, they will go back to living in tents with their goats and camels.
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  • Sir_Cache 1 day ago
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    Muslims cannot tolerate non-Muslim behavior. Unlike Christianity--which is largely based on being a good person for your own self-worth, Islam assumes that everyone must be Islamic or they are worthless. There is no words for tolerance in the Muslim faith. I do not blame them for this--it was, after all, written by warlords over 1,000 years ago. But their failure to grow, to learn, to become more than mindless automatons is theirs alone to bear.
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  • PETER J 1 day ago
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    We could liberate these folks from the Iraqis, but not from themselves.
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  • Chappy 1 day ago
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    I worked there many years as recently as 2014 and I know Kuwaitis are hypocrites. Most wealthy families have bars in there home with liquor. Cops who confiscate the stuff keep it for themselves something I have witnesses personally. They go to Dubai and drink to excess every week. And when they come to the states before the plane lands in D.C. they are already drinking alcohol. Crime against Islam is #$%$.
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  • Rob 1 day ago
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    Once again the rantings of a lunatic goatherd being used to justify punishing someone for using the power of reason. Not just the Muslims either, all the "children of Abraham" have this issue.
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  • renner 1 day ago
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    "Kuwaiti law bans people from dancing at concerts, though they are allowed to clap their hands and sway". LOL!!!
    in the UAE, it is not allowed for a performer to get off the stage and mix with audience. Similarly, a person from the audience cannot go to stage.
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  • RANDY 1 day ago
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    Even prog's over there. A clever ruse, however it is still a way to introduce a new tax.
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  • Andreas 1 day ago
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    If one wanted to summarize the superiority of Western civilization over Islam in one word, that word would be "choice." Despite a slowly creeping slide toward totalitarianism, Western civilization has since the 18th century been predicated on the principles of individual liberties. In such a worldview, man is a moral agent uniquely tasked with deciding how to govern his own life. Law in Western civilization is a mixture of consensus and compromise created in response to competing interests. Reason, thought, and reflection are necessary for a person to act morally in the West. (Whether this derives from Western philosophy or notions of guilt in Christianity is open to debate.)

    Islam, in contrast to this internal individualistic morality, makes morality an external thing. Morality is not so much about personal reflection as outward conformity. As such, guilt in the Western sense of the word does not exist. Shame caused by failure to outwardly conform is the primary moral force within Islam. Without a sense of guilt, there is no need for a conscience. Islam's externalization of morality transfers the obligation to think morally to authorities outside of the individual. Oftentimes, the state becomes the moral authority in Islamic societies because, as a creed, Islam is fundamentally political. The ummah itself is a pseudo- or meta-nation, and the Shariah is a blueprint from which the polity of Islam consistently emerges wherever the religion spreads.

    What is the ultimate consequence of transferring one's moral responsibility to an outside authority? What does moral conformity and shame culture create? Well, among other things, it creates individuals who are not sure of themselves. A culture of shame and conformity creates individuals who cannot think morally for themselves. And when external moral authority proves to be corrupt, cruel, or brutal, the conformists, the morally handicapped followers of the authority, often become the unintentional instruments of evil.

    One would be correct to say that Western men have not always chosen to act morally. They have often been cruel, brutal, and greedy. That is true. What is also true, however, is that the choice to be moral or immoral has been their individual choice. The same cannot be said for men and women in Islamic civilization who have for almost 14 centuries been encouraged by their creed to submit to the will of Allah by conforming in terms of behavior, appearance, and thought.
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  • Mike 1 day ago
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    One man with honest integrity, calling a spade a spade, gets beat down by religious hypocrites, all of whom have tasted the grape.
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  • Susan 1 day ago
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    Oh, for God's sake. I guess it doesn't pay to be a realist in Kuwait. Anyone with money and status drinks alcohol in Kuwait. There is money involved here, not religion. Well, unless it's those nut cases. I think when it mention confiscating alcohol brought over the border it's a clue to the money trail. It doesn't support their past or their present religious beliefs because they are such huge hypocrites it makes them a target of derision.
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  • Jan B 1 day ago
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    Shows how ridiculous some societies are.
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